#Soylent update: Just added a smallish banana to about 15 oz. of Soylent 1.4 for a 550-calorie breakfast and it was really enjoyable. No caveats....it was tasty and filling. Leaving mixed Soylent overnight in the fridge definitely improves the texture...its much more milkshake-like the next day.
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ReplyDeleteWhat does Soylent cost? I have to believe that it would be cheaper to throw some protein powder, multi-vitamins, psyllium husks, sugar, and safflower oil into a food processor and get the same combination of protein, carbs, fat, fiber, vitamins and minerals for a lot less money.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, that's what we need: open source Soylent recipes.
"Soylent Green ist Menschenfleisch."
ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne - According to The Hubs, who has been researching, about $85 for a weeks worth of meals.
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ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne There are plenty DIY recipes - https://diy.soylent.me/
ReplyDeleteI've been curious about Soylent, and i'm finding your posts about it fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteMarvin Cox just experimenting with it to see if it's something I could commit to in some fashion. I expect I couldn't go full replacement as eating is at times a vital social event for me. But, 5-8 of my meals a week could easily be Soylent, I think.
ReplyDeleteSoylent is not proven to be either good for you nor as nutritious as its "inventor" claims. I say "inventor" cos for all his claims it must be remembered that he is making a profit out of this product. Do some research you will see that nutritionists and dieticians are not so keen on it and that there is no research to prove its efficacy or long term safety. Also worth noting its "inventor" is a software engineer and not a nutritionist.
ReplyDeleteNow I'm not saying its bad Craig's posts have prompted me to do a lil research and this is what I've come up with. I would be wary and I usually find that anything that is too easy is normally not worth it
Too easy? Really? I don't know too many not-for-profit food manufacturers. That said, I appreciate you looking out for me. ;-)
ReplyDeleteJohn Lieske and this is why I rarely post. I never suggested I knew more than you or anybody, I initially thought great but as I have a background in medicine and I don't just believe everything I did some quick research. And I shared it. That's all. Reread my post and see I clearly state I that although I posted I wasn't saying the stuff was bad.
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle Craig my only point was that of course the guy who makes it says its amazing cos that's how he makes his living. And no one selling a product is going to say well its got loads of good stuff in it but as I've no background in nutrition and I've not really tested how it would effect the body like long term to replace meals with it then maybe we shouldn't eat a lot of it tell we've got research done. Actually sorry I posted now
ReplyDeleteFran Mcardle It's always (well, almost always) helpful to hear from skeptics. That said, the Rosa Labs folks actually do employ a sizable number of nutritionists and the press Soylent has gotten would have attracted regulators if there was anything seriously amiss. My own research into it suggests that it's certainly safe, if not overly so. It doesn't claim to do things that a lot of the GNC products and the like do...it's much more boring than that. And it's been around reasonably long such that if it was harming people in the short run, we'd know. And in the long run, we're all dead anyway. ;-) So, thanks for the skepticism...I appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne yeah, considering most of the components are from industrial sources you have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to use natural basis for the stuff, The Bruess Diet is an all liquid diet made from roots and my understanding it contains all the vitamins and minerals one needs but contains no proteins. I would assume that there is no basis to claim that this soylent has all the proteins needed for all the proteomes used by the human body, since that information isn't fully known.
ReplyDeleteJohn Lieske any product proclaiming to contain all the proteins to sustain life has no evidence for such a statement.
ReplyDeleteAnyone can visit this site to see the current state of understanding of human proteomes, which can best be described and nominal.
http://www.thehpp.org/
And yes, the Bruess diet has sustained people on a protein free diet for extensive periods of time. My claim is simple, it's a great source of vitamins and minerals.
Did I write the Bruess diet was the only thing needed to live? No, since most human cells are replaced in a 6 month period you need proteins and b vitamins
Are there any studies regarding the uptake in Soylent? have mineral levels in the blood stream been monitored on people who have use the diet exclusively? How are the minerals chelated? certainly you can dump minerals in a bag and mix it with a liquid but that is not a guarantee of the uptake.
For example, if I where to make such a compound, I would certainly include Fulvic, since non organic sources of minerals would be lacking such.
The claim that someone can be keep alive or are getting 100 percent of what is needed to live a healthy life is misleading, most people who have been forced on to "predigested" diets suffer from degenerative diseases much sooner than someone able to metabolize organic compounds.
I can feel your butthurt though, imagine, someone suggesting you can get everything you need from vegetables, spiting the capitalism all the way.
Are you sir willing to say this is a complete diet? If so, why are they changing the recipe?
Oh! Let's start the strawman attack! 9/11 Zeitgeist? Can I out you for using cheesy internet flamewar tactics?
ReplyDeletethe site I sent you? It is the next step of the human genome project, in fact, it's probably 100,000 times more complex than the human genome project and without it, the human genome project serves little purpose. Your disregard for that site shows you have NO CLUE about what you are talking about. I'd suggest you go read up mate, but I am getting the feeling by the effeciency that you pulled out the conspiracy theory strawman attack, you're not really genuinely interested in any real exchange of information here, instead are merely advancing punditry of this product for some reason.
before you start your sales pitch regarding products for total enteral nutrition do go read the guidelines for such. None of them are complete long term replacements and continued use tend to result in nasty stuff like liver and kidney failure, this information is widely available in the guidelines for patients from sources like NHS etc..
I knew a chap, had most of his stomach removed, a large part of his intestine, his liquid diet had a shelf life of less than a day and cost $800 per day,. it took him about 5 years to die, mostly from a immune system failure, in the end after loosing all his hair and having open infections large enough to use a teaspoon to clean.
I think if you're so sure of this stance that man made TEN is a viable alternative to the human digestive system and organix sources of nutrients, you should put up or shut up, it's be interesting to see someone go on a year long diet intentionally.
anyway, I can tell you have some big interest here. Do you care to disclose it?
haha, he blocked me! nevermind then. What's with the satan worship profile pic I wonder
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle Craig I'm not a skeptic I was all for it till I did some reading. And pharma companies employ doctors doesn't stop them from making meds that are eventually proven to be harmful. One thing I will point out and that's me done. The guy who came up with the formula admits his diet was made up of cheap nasty food almost entirely. He came up with this stuff and after he STOPPED eating the cheap nasty food and started drinking the goop he felt amazing and had so much energy. Note I capitalized the stopped for eating cheap unhealthy food. That's why I did some more reading. Again I'm not saying its bad I would just be very wary of replacing good simple non processed healthy food and a balanced diet for something which isn't exactly proven. As for me saying its easy, I stand over that cos its into a bottle add water and boom meal as opposed to the prep time and hassle of storing other food stuffs.
ReplyDeletePaul Kelly Hey remember Mike, how long did it take for him to die on the liquid diet he was on? like 4-5 years or so yeah?
ReplyDeleteHippy mike would have lived longer, but booting crystal sped up his life a bit too much.
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle: Have you been tracking the standard food-affected parameters — blood glucose, cholesterol, hematocrit, perhaps B and D vitamins?
ReplyDeleteAndres Soolo lol...nope
ReplyDeleteGood to know.
ReplyDeleteDo you add the banana before storing in the fridge overnight?
ReplyDeleteRalph Gauthier No, I generally made the mix, refrigerated it, and the blended in fruit right before drinking (or taking to work).
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