Originally shared by Rich LaDuca
Yes, Mr. President, We Remade Our Atlas to Reflect Shrinking Ice
"The fake ice sheet in the fake Arctic has fake melted so much, National Geographic has had to fake redraw its fake maps to reflect fake climate change" (Fark Headline)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/08/150803-arctic-ice-obama-climate-nation-science/
Boa tarde!!
ReplyDeleteIbiza moving to Greenland.
ReplyDeleteyou do realize that Rich LaDuca (the OP) shared this with the innuendo that it is all fake, right Craig Froehle?
ReplyDelete(I'm pretty confident you don't share the same delusions)
Dude, that is major scary!
ReplyDeleteJared Eldredge What do you mean by "fake"?
ReplyDeleteI flew over that Artic Ocean on the way back from Romania to Canada, a month and a half ago...
It ain't an Ice cap any more.
All that water goes somewhere. Let's say it's saturating the atmosphere. How much does it weigh?
ReplyDeleteSanta's gonna need some pontoons under his shop.
ReplyDeleteMl Hayes initially all that water takes up a smaller volume than it did when it was ice.
ReplyDeleteJared Eldredge Well, Rich LaDuca is skilled in sarcasm and I'm fairly sure he has a reasonable stance on climate change.
ReplyDeleteMalthe Høj-Sunesen yes, but it will release energy when it does so. Typhoons and hurricanes are the evidence of such. Additionally, snow storms, blizzards and violent localized winds such as tornadoes. That water can't remain suspended indefinitely.
ReplyDeleteMalthe Høj-Sunesen actually, water in icecaps tends to sublimate. It immediately takes up more volume than ice.
ReplyDeleteBryce Miller oh, I did not know that. Is that because of the dry air? Interesting.
ReplyDeleteMl Hayes I'm not sure I can follow how heating up something can release energy. As far as I know, all phase shifts with water are highly endothermic.
ReplyDeleteThe missing white stuff can reduce reflection of the Sun's energy, thus increasing the energy input, meaning we get more energy into the global system.
Malthe Høj-Sunesen combination of factors, but yes it's because the air is dry (the driest place on Earth is in Antartica). It absorbs some sunlight energy to happen.
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle ahh good. I didn't scan his profile carefully enough to recognize the sarcasm (and failed to recognize the user name from prior posts).
ReplyDeleteI took the embedded text at gave bake and thought "oh crap, Craig just reshared a whack job's post" :)
Rich LaDuca my bad Rich LaDuca: the sarcasm escaped me
ReplyDeleteJared Eldredge
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Evan Brady McNeeley
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by 'usable' ?
And what 'land' are you referring to?
[popcorn]
ReplyDeleteEvan Brady McNeeley
ReplyDeleteWHAT land?
It is an Ocean.
... as in not land
::crying::
ReplyDelete(That moment when you're stuck staring at a set of comments.)
ReplyDeleteOh dear...
ReplyDeleteMalthe Høj-Sunesen heat water get vapor. Heat vapor at an altitude get what? Thinking all energy is heat is denying the avalanche effect of solid things...again, a release of energy with little of no heat involved.
ReplyDeleteRain and wind are as much energy releases as they are conversions from static to kinetic back to static states. Think fossil fuel is static in its petroleum state. When ignited it has various explosive qualities depending on the refinement of the base component. The explosion is fire when continously controlled. In an internal combustion engine, repeated explosions are controlled to produce torque and drive mechanical engineering to produce other forms of kinetics.
In nature, said releases are counterbalanced by various global and solar circumstances. Think tides, night to day rotation, seasonal planetary tilting towards the sun, volcanic activity of the earth's molten iron core. Combine the factors and address tectonic movement as a matter of the weight of the atmosphere in relation to a constant gravitational tug from the sun. Think of the moon as a form of governor that controlls cooling using tidal wash to move heated water in both the atmosphere and the oceans.
Now think, what if the inert gasses are neutral in all this washing back and forth? What happens when you introduce gasses and particles that are severely sensitive to temperature at higher altitudes than those which normally occur in nature?
What kind of energy would you suppose they would display? Static or kinetic?
Our sun can boil water off an approaching comet out beyond Pluto's orbit. That is what you see when you see a comet's tail. So, that is ten plus years away at the fastest man can propel himself. Same light energy gets to earth in about eight minutes. If it wasn't for the magnetic effect of the molten iron core, earth an the moon would be barren twins.
Hope this helps your perspective and increases your ability to follow. It's not the surface that is being drastically altered as much as it is the stratosphere. The white stuff does reduce the surface heat gain via reflection. Where does it go before it falls back to the earth's surface?
Ml Hayes thank you for that extensive reply. I was clearly a bit too narrow-minded in just thinking of thawing ice.
ReplyDeleteMalthe Høj-Sunesen climate change is a global issue and a local problem. Few knew that creating a Chinese middle class would tax the global climate to such an extent?
ReplyDeleteEvan Brady McNeeley
ReplyDeleteI asked you to give a specific answer - There is no reason for me to guess.
Are you stuck, incapable or ignorant?
Or do you need me to guess?
Ml Hayes at least we're calling it climate change now. Explaining that global warning could cause local cooling (in Northern Europe for example, due to he collapse of the warm current from the Mexican Gulf) was a loosing fight.
ReplyDeleteMalthe Høj-Sunesen yes, it loses a lot in the colloquial translation. LOL, but the pertinent facts remain true.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to boil water fast drop hot rocks in a bowl or pitcher till something comes out. The more rocks in, the more water displaced. The hotter the rock the faster the water comes out.
Same with atmosphere. Throw solids high enough into the air and the sun will heat them. Now, where can that energy go but down?
Gravity won't allow it to escape and there is too much of it to remain suspended.
Uhoh...
http://i.imgur.com/tI3h05A.jpg
ReplyDeleteRich LaDuca LOL
ReplyDeleteI liked geography on earth and contiments.^^
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