There once was this bigoted clerk. At gay marriage, she just went berserk. The judge said, "Contempt! You are not exempt. Stay in jail 'til you'll go back to work."
James Fields She will not, but she may come out understanding each has his own opinion and each stands before God on their own in the end........as she will after 4 divorces.
For fucks sake Mary get a life (!) and it should not have to be by going to jail.
If her conscience is as strict as she claims, a stay in jail should be no problem. However, she's not going to jail because of her conscience - she's going to jail for defying a court order that clearly explained why issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples do not impinge upon her religious practices.
A clerk in the County of Rowan At same-sex marriage, stones she was throwin' The ruling: she's not exempt The judge: You're in contempt And off to the jailhouse she's goin'
The main point of their saga is true love conquers all . I wish them many years of happiness . Straight couples need to look at each other and ask again if they are that committed to loving and staying with their mate . This should be a lesson for all people . Regardless of your choice of god or faith . Love is everything and without it you have nothing .
There once was a clerk from Kentucky, Whose 4th marriage wasn't so lucky, She wouldn't wed the gays, For too many days, Now she finds her jail cell quite sucky.
Matthew Wright I would think it's perfectly fine to advise a client to ignore a court order, as long as the attorney also spells out the consequences for doing so.
So a lawyer, advising their client to break the law, is staying within ethical boundaries as long as they tell their client of potential repercussions? Doubt it. I would consider it legal negligence to ever advise a client to break the law.
I believe that in questions of civil disobedience, such advice would not be unethical, particularly when direct physical harm is not involved nor a possible outcome of said defiance.
That being said, I do consider 'defy the court order' to be bad advice, but I suspect both Davis and her attorney were hoping for an outcome favorable to their religious belief argument.
Jefferson Sims UM? Jeff? She was hired to do a job......it is not her right to decide what part of the job she wants to do...... (can you do that at your job ? of course you cant) ......you have so much ass back ward I almost can not believe what you wrote.
"Gay marriage is legal yet they dont respect this women for standing up for what she believes in."
That sentence doesn't seem ironic at all to you? "Standing up for what she believes in" means (a) breaking the law, and (b) violating other people's civil rights, yet you want the people whose civil rights are being trampled to somehow respect their oppressor?? That is insane.
Jefferson Sims You're an idiot if you really think that "essentially you are oppressing your oppressor" is an actual thing. Clearly, you don't grasp the concept of civil liberties if you believe that stopping someone from oppressing you (removing your civil rights) is itself oppression. Oppressing others is not, and never will be, a civil right. And no, no one is keeping Kim Davis from exercising her rights -- she still has the right to marry and the right to believe whatever her faith dictates. But her belief is only allowed to affect HER OWN LIFE, not others. That's how civil liberties work, you dolt.
And yes, I'm breaking my usual promise to not call other people names, but your idea of how things ought to be is just infuriatingly stupid, yet you keep reiterating it as if it's a valid position (clue: it's not).
I think she believes herself a priest..granting Chrisitian marriage via state law.
ReplyDeleteIt is official 64 and 1/2 is the highest you can stack sh:t
ReplyDeleteMadeleine Begun Kane would approve, methinks.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she'll come to like gay marriage after her stay in jail... Ijs !!
ReplyDeleteJames Fields She will not, but she may come out understanding each has his own opinion and each stands before God on their own in the end........as she will after 4 divorces.
ReplyDeleteFor fucks sake Mary get a life (!) and it should not have to be by going to jail.
If her conscience is as strict as she claims, a stay in jail should be no problem. However, she's not going to jail because of her conscience - she's going to jail for defying a court order that clearly explained why issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples do not impinge upon her religious practices.
ReplyDeletejeff belli slack I was being facetious ....
ReplyDeleteJames Fields I understand James..................I should have been clearer in my retort........;=)
ReplyDeleteDude, I'm I'm.
ReplyDeleteHer marriages numbered to four.
So sacred it could not be for.
She's just being a bitch,
To get famous and rich.
I swear I've seen this crap before...
A clerk in the County of Rowan
ReplyDeleteAt same-sex marriage, stones she was throwin'
The ruling: she's not exempt
The judge: You're in contempt
And off to the jailhouse she's goin'
ETA: removed 'court' from the first line
Bob Lai
ReplyDeleteShe thought, "I'm exempt!"
The judge said, "Contempt!"
Anthony Barber delete "just" please. Sorry everybody. I'm obsessive.
ReplyDeleteThe main point of their saga is true love conquers all . I wish them many years of happiness . Straight couples need to look at each other and ask again if they are that committed to loving and staying with their mate . This should be a lesson for all people . Regardless of your choice of god or faith . Love is everything and without it you have nothing .
ReplyDeleteThere once was a clerk from Kentucky,
ReplyDeleteWhose 4th marriage wasn't so lucky,
She wouldn't wed the gays,
For too many days,
Now she finds her jail cell quite sucky.
She's going to jail because the Liberty Counsel shysters advised her she needs to be a martyr.
ReplyDeleteslow clap for Matthew Wright
ReplyDeleteBob Lai Nice, except for the fact that "Rowan" rhymes with "cow in"
ReplyDeleteClayton Haapala And in doing so, may have been committing ethical violations. No attorney should ever advise their client to ignore a court order.
ReplyDeleteMatthew Wright I would think it's perfectly fine to advise a client to ignore a court order, as long as the attorney also spells out the consequences for doing so.
ReplyDeleteSo a lawyer, advising their client to break the law, is staying within ethical boundaries as long as they tell their client of potential repercussions? Doubt it. I would consider it legal negligence to ever advise a client to break the law.
ReplyDeleteI believe that in questions of civil disobedience, such advice would not be unethical, particularly when direct physical harm is not involved nor a possible outcome of said defiance.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I do consider 'defy the court order' to be bad advice, but I suspect both Davis and her attorney were hoping for an outcome favorable to their religious belief argument.
Jefferson Sims UM? Jeff?
ReplyDeleteShe was hired to do a job......it is not her right to decide what part of the job she wants to do......
(can you do that at your job ? of course you cant)
......you have so much ass back ward I almost can not believe what you wrote.
"Gay marriage is legal yet they dont respect this women for standing up for what she believes in."
ReplyDeleteThat sentence doesn't seem ironic at all to you? "Standing up for what she believes in" means (a) breaking the law, and (b) violating other people's civil rights, yet you want the people whose civil rights are being trampled to somehow respect their oppressor?? That is insane.
Jefferson Sims You're an idiot if you really think that "essentially you are oppressing your oppressor" is an actual thing. Clearly, you don't grasp the concept of civil liberties if you believe that stopping someone from oppressing you (removing your civil rights) is itself oppression. Oppressing others is not, and never will be, a civil right. And no, no one is keeping Kim Davis from exercising her rights -- she still has the right to marry and the right to believe whatever her faith dictates. But her belief is only allowed to affect HER OWN LIFE, not others. That's how civil liberties work, you dolt.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I'm breaking my usual promise to not call other people names, but your idea of how things ought to be is just infuriatingly stupid, yet you keep reiterating it as if it's a valid position (clue: it's not).
Aaand bluehead troll is blocked.
ReplyDeleteIt's about the same as "Sorry for taking a dump in your living room!"
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