I think they are ones. The slanted lids. And the hash is too low down for a seven. I think it's supposed to be a bottom that was just sloppily written.
7s? I don’t think 1s because even with writing fast/sloppy, they wouldn’t have missed the bottom part of the 1 on both. They seem to deliberately put the cross part above the bottom, toward the middle.
All the letters are angled relative to the baseline, so the angled tops of the numerals are not decisive. I’ve never seen someone put the foot of a 1 that far up. Meanwhile I’ve seen man people put crossbars on 7s. So I’m betting 7.
Do you know where the person grew up? The crossed 7 is more common in Europe, while (if I'm not mistaken) actually writing the serif on a 1 is more American. But I'd only slightly give the edge to 7 if I were to vote.
G+ usually brings up someone's profile if you search for an address. So you could search for both versions and see which one brings up a valid account.
This is a cultural issue with 1's and 7's. If the person is from the US or Canada, I'd say they were 1's... but it's much more likely these are 7's because anyone who goes to the trouble to put that line there is a bit pedantic and would have made sure they were below the line. The fact that both are about equidistant from the bottom of the numeral implies the intent to create a cross.
So my vote is 7. I'd love to hear how it turns out (and which culture the person was from.)
I think a lot of Americans will cross-bar their 7s, I think it's regional, or similar to how different people ended up learning a slightly different version of Palmer cursive.
Craig Froehle handwriting is a wide field.... easy to go wandering. Have you tried sending to the various permutations and seeing if you get a "mail recipient does not exist"? I imagine you would have thought of that....
The 'original' idea was (within Arabic numbers, is that) the the number 'seven' gets a line through it, so it won't be confused with the number 'one'.
Then Europeans started putting a serif on top, and a line on the bottom of the number 'one'...
Because the number 'seven' with its cross-line, looked to much like the '4'....
And in the US, we stopped connecting the lines at the top of number 'four', so it wouldn't look like the number 'seven', and stopped crossing the number 'seven', so it didn't look like the number 'four'...
Blame the 'Bean Counters' ... Its a 'Bean Counters Conspiracy'
1. Born and bred in New England. But spent a formative year (age 7) in England, and a high school year in Germany. 2. No bases on my ones when writing normally, but often put a base on when block printing for forms or email addresses. 3. Similarly, no cross on my sevens when writing normally, but often add one when I am block printing on forms.
John Lewis Note, I have learned ball and stick printing in the USA when I was 5/6 and started learning looped cursive. Then I learned copperplate in England. These all have different numeral formats. Then I was back to ball and stick US printing. Then I had to learn to write numbers differently in Germany. I kept most of the European mannerisms (crossed sevens, upstroke but no base on ones) for years. Then I learned to put a slash in my zeros when I became a software dude. Then I homeschooled my kids and we all learned Getty-Dubay italic and I changed my numbers again.
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ReplyDelete1 or 7. The solution is to send four emails and ask. Chances are three of them will bounce.
ReplyDeleteI think they are ones. The slanted lids. And the hash is too low down for a seven. I think it's supposed to be a bottom that was just sloppily written.
ReplyDeleteI’m guessing 1s as well, as the horizontal strokes align with the bottom of the next numbers.
ReplyDelete7s? I don’t think 1s because even with writing fast/sloppy, they wouldn’t have missed the bottom part of the 1 on both. They seem to deliberately put the cross part above the bottom, toward the middle.
ReplyDeleteSo far, the votes are 50% 1s and 50% 7s. I'm glad it's not just me. ;-)
ReplyDeleteAll the letters are angled relative to the baseline, so the angled tops of the numerals are not decisive.
ReplyDeleteI’ve never seen someone put the foot of a 1 that far up. Meanwhile I’ve seen man people put crossbars on 7s. So I’m betting 7.
And this should have been a poll.
Mike DeSimone You can't have a poll AND an image in a G+ post.
ReplyDeleteDo you know where the person grew up? The crossed 7 is more common in Europe, while (if I'm not mistaken) actually writing the serif on a 1 is more American. But I'd only slightly give the edge to 7 if I were to vote.
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle ... another bullet point for “why G+ still isn’t as good as phpBB even after all these years.”
ReplyDeleteThey are sevens. You don't cross ones.
ReplyDeleteDan Thompson has the right answer, except you only need to send to two addresses, because whatever those digits are, they’re the same digit.
ReplyDeleteI would say "7". Here in Germany people often cross their 7s to distinguish them from "1"s. I do too.
ReplyDeleteAnd the amusing part is that the cross on a seven is expressly there to disambiguate a one from a seven. Hard fail!
ReplyDeleteSend whatever email to both 1513 and 7573, problem solved.
ReplyDeleteSomeone who writes a 7 like that (and I think they're 7s) would probably write a 1 with a hook that looks too longvto American eyes.
ReplyDeleteWhen you get it sorted out, definitely report back!
ReplyDeleteG+ usually brings up someone's profile if you search for an address. So you could search for both versions and see which one brings up a valid account.
ReplyDeleteIt's white and gold, not blue and black!
ReplyDeleteI'd say they're ones. Sevens would have the cross higher up
ReplyDeleteIt's a European, probably German handwriting and it is the number seven.
ReplyDelete1513?
ReplyDelete7. Europe is putting a bar on 7 to avoid confusion with 1.
ReplyDeleteOlivier Malinur It worked suuuper well in this case, no?
ReplyDeleteThis is a cultural issue with 1's and 7's. If the person is from the US or Canada, I'd say they were 1's... but it's much more likely these are 7's because anyone who goes to the trouble to put that line there is a bit pedantic and would have made sure they were below the line. The fact that both are about equidistant from the bottom of the numeral implies the intent to create a cross.
ReplyDeleteSo my vote is 7. I'd love to hear how it turns out (and which culture the person was from.)
US: 1517
ReplyDeleteEU: 7573
cursive: f5f3 (maybe chess?)
My guess: ferd7573
ReplyDelete7s
ReplyDelete1's
ReplyDeleteMy guess is nerd1513@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteI think a lot of Americans will cross-bar their 7s, I think it's regional, or similar to how different people ended up learning a slightly different version of Palmer cursive.
ReplyDeleteWell...that clears it right up. Thanks all!
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Craig Froehle handwriting is a wide field.... easy to go wandering. Have you tried sending to the various permutations and seeing if you get a "mail recipient does not exist"? I imagine you would have thought of that....
ReplyDeleteAaron Wood I cross my 7's and Z's, but I've never seen any American besides me do it.
ReplyDeleteEh... There isn't anything to decipher. They are obviously ones (1's).
ReplyDeleteCraig Froehle So, did you actually resolve it?
ReplyDeleteI smdh when I run into these...
ReplyDeleteThe 'original' idea was (within Arabic numbers, is that) the the number 'seven' gets a line through it, so it won't be confused with the number 'one'.
Then Europeans started putting a serif on top, and a line on the bottom of the number 'one'...
Because the number 'seven' with its cross-line, looked to much like the '4'....
And in the US, we stopped connecting the lines at the top of number 'four', so it wouldn't look like the number 'seven', and stopped crossing the number 'seven', so it didn't look like the number 'four'...
Blame the 'Bean Counters' ...
Its a 'Bean Counters Conspiracy'
I cross my sevens to distinguish my ugly "1" from my ugly "7" :D
ReplyDeleteThis is so distracting.
ReplyDeleteWhen you write a 1, you start with the stem. Then optionally you add any additional parts to it, like a top or bottom.
When writing the number 7, you start with the stop line, move to the right and pull down. Then optionally putting a cross through.
In this case we can see a contiguous line from left to right and then down the stem, which implies to me that these are 7s.
Now please tell us which it was they intended.
John Lewis When I write a 1, I start with the short upstroke for the serif, then continue with the downstroke for the body of the glyph.
ReplyDeleteBrian Holt Hawthorne Three questions:
ReplyDelete1) Are you from North America?
2) Do you put a base on your 1? (A line at the bottom.)
3) Do you cross your 7's?
John Lewis
ReplyDelete1. Born and bred in New England. But spent a formative year (age 7) in England, and a high school year in Germany.
2. No bases on my ones when writing normally, but often put a base on when block printing for forms or email addresses.
3. Similarly, no cross on my sevens when writing normally, but often add one when I am block printing on forms.
Brian Holt Hawthorne This explains a lot
ReplyDeleteJohn Lewis Note, I have learned ball and stick printing in the USA when I was 5/6 and started learning looped cursive. Then I learned copperplate in England. These all have different numeral formats. Then I was back to ball and stick US printing. Then I had to learn to write numbers differently in Germany. I kept most of the European mannerisms (crossed sevens, upstroke but no base on ones) for years.
ReplyDeleteThen I learned to put a slash in my zeros when
I became a software dude.
Then I homeschooled my kids and we all learned Getty-Dubay italic and I changed my numbers again.
So now, I am
Basically
A
Mess.
Brian Holt Hawthorne Yep.
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